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    Lukas Huptas

    Hello Dean,

    In the past, pure virus protection was completely sufficient to protect your system - unfortunately, this is no longer the case today.

    For this reason, we must react to new threat scenarios away from viruses, worms, and trojans. For this reason, we have now combined all modules under a uniform interface. It is never easy to accept a change, especially if it has a negative effect on you personally.

    I ask you to understand that this decision was not taken lightly but is based on the needs of the majority of our users.


    Lukas Huptas

    Avira Community Manager

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    Dean L

    So which does "Organizen" and System Speedup protect me from? Trojans, viruses, or worms? Those are two that have nothing to do with protecting my system. At the very least, make it so these extra programs are listed but do not run without explicit permission, and when something is disabled, it actually stops running in the background. I have Mailscanner disabled and yet it's still running as a process. Why? 

    I know you have to make money, so you want to advertise the other options. I have no problem with that. I have a problem with things running even when I don't want them to. 

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    Vasil Petev


    @AVIRA: If this doesn't get addressed, I'll spend my anti-virus dollars elsewhere.

    To the community: to permanently remove some of Avira's background services, try to install them directly from

    C:\Program Files (x86)\Avira\

    I managed to uninstall the following (each, from its respective folder):
    Avira Phantom VPN
    Avira System Speedup

    Restart will be required.

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